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传DeepSeek与华为深度共研昇腾AI芯片,规划950T预训练、960DT主供DeepSeek以替代英伟达
直接主体DeepSeek与华为均未上市,可交易的只有二阶昇腾产业链,而本消息是无官方确认、无金额/订单/出货量的软性合作传闻;中文媒体当日08:59起已广泛转载,A股整个上午盘已在交易该消息,下午13:03再追入面临半日price-in,且候选股普遍处于20日-11%~-21%的下行通道,实时行情工具又故障无法核验今日是否已冲高,edge与赔率均不足。
📄 原文DigiTimes↗ 原文
DeepSeek-Huawei chip co-design could shift AI training away from Nvidia
DeepSeek is reportedly working closely with Huawei to influence the design of its future AI chips, a link reportedly cl…
不做 神州数码(000034.SZ)
昇腾生态映射为二阶、无点名订单或金额,消息未证实且A股上午盘已传播半日,股价20日下行-12%,实时行情故障无法确认今日是否已冲高,追入赔率不足
不做 DeepSeek/华为昇腾直接标的(N/A)
核心受益主体DeepSeek与华为(含海思昇腾)均未上市,无直接可交易证券;其余A股仅松散主题联动,不构成本事件可执行主腿
展开详情(成交明细 / 研究档案 / 原文全文 / 决策记录链)
研究档案
结论摘要
DeepSeek与华为共研昇腾芯片、训练去英伟达化的方向利好国产算力,但属未证实软催化、无量化订单,直接主体不可交易,A股映射标的为松散主题联想且半日已传播、趋势向下,缺乏可执行正期望,回避追高。
消息传播链
- 中文版当日08:59已转述The Information关于华为工程师进驻DeepSeek、共研下一代芯片的报道,早于DigiTimes,说明A股开盘前消息已在中文渠道传播
- 上午盘交易时段(10:19)进一步扩散,含950T预训练、960DT供货细节,A股上午盘已能据此定价
- 本信号源,转引The Information,非首发;无华为/DeepSeek一手确认
关键理由
- 国产替代与DeepSeek绑定昇腾是真实长期趋势,950T/960DT若放量将拉动昇腾整机、服务器及配套产业链需求
主要风险
- 消息全程reportedly且The Information原文付费墙未核验,华为/DeepSeek若否认或淡化则催化证伪
- 中文媒体当日上午已广泛传播,A股上午盘可能已price-in,下午追入易承接情绪高点;候选股均处下行趋势
反向证据
- 做多前查反向 · 来源 web · 日期 2026-10-20 · 影响 weakens
正文自承华为先进制程产能不足、单芯片性能较弱靠超节点弥补;未检索到官方确认,消息可被否认
检索:DeepSeek 华为 昇腾 否认 950T 量产 产能 不及预期 - 做多前查反向 · 来源 internal_market_api · 日期 2026-10-19 · 影响 weakens
五只候选近20日普跌11%-21%、近5日续跌6%-8%,处于明确下行通道,弱传闻缺乏扭转趋势的量级
检索:昇腾 产业链 概念股 近期 回调 业绩 下修 砍单
先例如何影响了这次决策
对本次决策的影响:先例薄弱叠加软催化与半日price-in,直接导向AVOID而非小仓试探
方向:无可核验首发链接的对齐先例;未检索到足够同市场、同相位(未证实供应链合作传闻盘中)且能溯源一手的事件样本
涨幅量级:不足以校准涨幅与止盈止损,故不给交易级tp/sl
形态:国产算力主题传闻通常首日脉冲、随后分化,但缺乏干净锚点不据此定量
工具执行结果 · 成功 5 · 降级 0 · 失败 4 · 取消 0
- search_processed_events 成功 stock_tools HTTP · 15 ms
{"result": "search_processed_events:agent query=`deepseek huawei ascend chip design collaboration 950t 960dt | deepseek 华为 昇腾 芯片设计 合作 950t 960dt | liang wenfeng huawei chips training inference the information`;结构化索引覆盖完整 72 小时;旧记录兼容扫描近 0.0/72 小时、0 条本臂决策(完整),返回 0 条候选。未命中只表示这些 agent query 表达式没有召回候选,不能据 - get_stock_profile 失败 stock_tools HTTP · 64 ms
{"result": "get_stock_profile 暂不可用: RuntimeError(\"ConnectError('[Errno 111] Connection refused')\")"} - web_search 成功 doubao_search · 2,759 ms
web_search「The Information DeepSeek Huawei Ascend chip design engineers embedded 950T 960DT」无结果。 - web_search 成功 doubao_search · 1,652 ms
豆包搜索结果(原始查询:DeepSeek 华为 昇腾 950T 960DT 芯片设计 合作 梁文锋 The Information;API SearchType:web) - query_modeling_kb 成功 stock_tools HTTP · 131 ms
{"result": "modeling_kb: 未命中(库快照 2026-07-27 · 11189 格 / 19 页)。\n库里与你的关键词最接近的主体: 华为昇腾 CloudMatrix 384(liquidcool)、华为昇腾 Ascend (910B/910C,自研 AS(nvda)、昇腾 910B·910C·950(advpkg)、华为 CloudMatrix(昇腾910C/950)(pcb)、华为 CloudMatrix 384/950(pcb)\n若上面没有你要判的公司/环节,就是**本库不覆盖它**——别再换词重试,直接用 kb_search / WebSearch。\n本库 - stock_quote 失败 stock_tools HTTP · 103 ms
行情服务暂不可用;本次无法核验该标的价格和可执行条件。请基于其余证据继续判断并明确标注行情降级;不得仅因工具故障自动给出 AVOID 或 ENTER,也不得编造价位。 - stock_quote 失败 stock_tools HTTP · 117 ms
行情服务暂不可用;本次无法核验该标的价格和可执行条件。请基于其余证据继续判断并明确标注行情降级;不得仅因工具故障自动给出 AVOID 或 ENTER,也不得编造价位。 - stock_quote 失败 stock_tools HTTP · 99 ms
行情服务暂不可用;本次无法核验该标的价格和可执行条件。请基于其余证据继续判断并明确标注行情降级;不得仅因工具故障自动给出 AVOID 或 ENTER,也不得编造价位。 - price_snapshot 成功 stock_tools HTTP · 1,225 ms
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原文全文
展开原文 · 2,791 字
DeepSeek is reportedly working closely with Huawei to influence the design of its future AI chips, a link reportedly closer than typical supplier-customer relationships. The collaboration shows the growing ties between two of China's largest technology firms to sidestep Nvidia.
According to The Information , Huawei engineers have been embedded at DeepSeek's offices over stretches of time to respond to the AI company's design suggestions. The feedback, which includes model calculation and data processing methods, will be incorporated into chips set to launch at the beginning of next year.
DeepSeek founder Liang Wenfeng said the company will aim to use more Chinese chips for training and told investors that the goal is to rely only on Huawei chips for this step in the future. The AI startup plans to use Huawei's recently released Ascend 950T for pre-training, possibly starting at the end of this year, The Information reported.
As for Huawei, it plans to sell most of the Ascend 960DTs it produces next year to DeepSeek. The AI developer intends to use them for both model training and inference.
Currently, DeepSeek relies on Huawei chips primarily for inference, while the harder training stage is still mainly done using Nvidia chips. Given US restrictions on its most advanced processors to China, these are often smuggled into the country or accessed outside it through data center services.
Nevertheless, Nvidia's market share in China has dropped by roughly a third in the first half of this year . Huawei is now closely behind it, and rotating chairman Eric Xu has even said its Ascend accelerators have surpassed Nvidia in sales in China. The Chinese government restricts imports of Nvidia chips in a bid to encourage domestic development of homegrown advanced chips.
DeepSeek's contributions to TileLang , an open-source programming language that can be used on different chips, may also help chip away at Nvidia's dominance. TileLang was developed by Peking University researchers, but DeepSeek has since become a significant user and contributor to it.
In September, the AI developer released Ascend support for the language. TileLang's versatility across chips marks a major difference from Nvidia's own programming language, CUDA, which is tied to its own chips. This has long driven sales, as shifting to another chip would require rewriting a large amount of code.
However, China is not yet self-reliant on the most advanced semiconductor technology, and Huawei still lacks the production capacity to satisfy domestic demand . It is using scale to overcome its weaker single-chip performance, forming AI supernodes of its Ascend chips. It has so far deployed over 1000 Ascend 910C supernodes, and it has designed architectures including as many as 1 million NPUs.
According to The Information , Huawei engineers have been embedded at DeepSeek's offices over stretches of time to respond to the AI company's design suggestions. The feedback, which includes model calculation and data processing methods, will be incorporated into chips set to launch at the beginning of next year.
DeepSeek founder Liang Wenfeng said the company will aim to use more Chinese chips for training and told investors that the goal is to rely only on Huawei chips for this step in the future. The AI startup plans to use Huawei's recently released Ascend 950T for pre-training, possibly starting at the end of this year, The Information reported.
As for Huawei, it plans to sell most of the Ascend 960DTs it produces next year to DeepSeek. The AI developer intends to use them for both model training and inference.
Currently, DeepSeek relies on Huawei chips primarily for inference, while the harder training stage is still mainly done using Nvidia chips. Given US restrictions on its most advanced processors to China, these are often smuggled into the country or accessed outside it through data center services.
Nevertheless, Nvidia's market share in China has dropped by roughly a third in the first half of this year . Huawei is now closely behind it, and rotating chairman Eric Xu has even said its Ascend accelerators have surpassed Nvidia in sales in China. The Chinese government restricts imports of Nvidia chips in a bid to encourage domestic development of homegrown advanced chips.
DeepSeek's contributions to TileLang , an open-source programming language that can be used on different chips, may also help chip away at Nvidia's dominance. TileLang was developed by Peking University researchers, but DeepSeek has since become a significant user and contributor to it.
In September, the AI developer released Ascend support for the language. TileLang's versatility across chips marks a major difference from Nvidia's own programming language, CUDA, which is tied to its own chips. This has long driven sales, as shifting to another chip would require rewriting a large amount of code.
However, China is not yet self-reliant on the most advanced semiconductor technology, and Huawei still lacks the production capacity to satisfy domestic demand . It is using scale to overcome its weaker single-chip performance, forming AI supernodes of its Ascend chips. It has so far deployed over 1000 Ascend 910C supernodes, and it has designed architectures including as many as 1 million NPUs.
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