📊 TrendForceTrendForceDoubao · 实盘不做把握 4/10不做原因:风险收益比不佳
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TrendForce:Google HumuFish TPU v9 据称100%坚持Intel EMIB-T封装,但3Q26基板良率仅约35%、tape-out或推迟
事件为产业链传闻且方向多空互抵:'坚持EMIB-T'的正面自10月14日VLSI Korea首发、10月19日TrendForce跟进后已广泛传播并部分定价,新增信息(35%良率、tape-out推迟)反而偏负面;涉及主体或为超大市值(Intel/TSMC/Google)、或催化远在1H28量产、或为无收入确认的远期基板订单。无明确净方向、无短线可交易edge,A股亦无被坐实的EMIB-T供应链标的。
📄 原文TrendForce↗ 原文
[Breaking] Google Reportedly Sticks With Intel EMIB-T Despite 35% Substrate Yields as HumuFish Schedule Tightens Uncert…
不做 Intel(INTC.US)
超大市值软催化:坚持EMIB-T的正面10月14日起已广泛传播,新增35%良率与tape-out推迟偏负面,多空互抵;量产远在1H28,无金额/指引增量,短线无净方向与edge,既不做多也不满足做空强催化。
不做 MediaTek 联发科(2454.TW)
10月19日已处理过HumuFish推迟版本,本条无新增订单/金额确认,良率瓶颈在封装侧而非联发科,缺乏新预期差。
不做 兴森科技(002436.SZ)
ABF基板主题联想,但未被列入Intel EMIB-T供应链,无真实订单或客户敞口,属无因果交易,避免借题追高。
不做 深南电路(002916.SZ)
封装基板概念但无EMIB-T被点名关系,事件不构成对其收入的因果催化,不做。
展开详情(成交明细 / 研究档案 / 原文全文 / 决策记录链)
研究档案
结论摘要
Google HumuFish据称100%坚持Intel EMIB-T是延续10月14日旧主线的确认,而新披露的35%基板良率与tape-out推迟偏空,多空抵消且量产远在2028年;主体超大市值、供应商为日台厂且为远期传闻,A股ABF标的无因果敞口,故不做。
消息传播链
- TrendForce Breaking转述Common Wealth Magazine、工商时报、TechNews(郭明錤),给出3Q26约35%良率、100%坚持EMIB-T、三版本封装分配与tape-out推迟;为多来源行业传闻汇编,非公司法定披露。
关键理由
- 产业链消息多空交织:坚持EMIB-T消除转单尾部风险(正面),但35%良率与推迟(负面)同时存在,无单一净方向。
- 关键正面已自10月14-19日广泛传播,本条相对市场共识缺乏新增正向预期差。
主要风险
- 35%良率/100%承诺均为未署名产业链传闻,Intel或Google若正式否认或确认转单CoWoS-L,方向将快速反转。
- A股ABF/先进封装概念股可能借题情绪炒作,但无被坐实的EMIB-T订单,追高存在纯主题回撤风险。
反向证据
- 做多前查反向 · 来源 web · 日期 2026-10-22 · 影响 weakens
新增35%良率与tape-out推迟为净负面,且10月有'Intel封装良率已达90%'等相互矛盾报道,削弱单一做多逻辑。
检索:Intel EMIB-T yield 35% HumuFish delay switch CoWoS-L 原文 ↗ - 做空前查反向 · 来源 web · 日期 2026-10-16 · 影响 invalidates
HumuFish 100%坚持EMIB-T、Intel据报赢得六大客户,构成对做空的正面反证,且无业绩/指引下修等强空催化。
检索:Google 100% committed EMIB-T Intel foundry six customers 原文 ↗
先例如何影响了这次决策
对本次决策的影响:因无净方向与edge,直接支持AVOID,未据任何先例设定交易参数。
方向:无高相似同市场对齐先例;本案为远期(1H28量产)先进封装产能/良率传闻,且主体超大市值、方向多空互抵,先例难以提供可信的短线方向与幅度。
涨幅量级:缺乏锚定首发、同市场同相位且可量化的良率/转单事件先例,不足以校准tp/sl。
形态:旧主线延续+新增负面细节的组合通常不构成单边交易,倾向无显著方向。
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豆包搜索结果(原始查询:EMIB-T substrate yield HumuFish Google TPU v9 Intel Ibiden Unimicron Shinko;API SearchType:web)
原文全文
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[Breaking] Google Reportedly Sticks With Intel EMIB-T Despite 35% Substrate Yields as HumuFish Schedule Tightens
Uncertainty is growing over potential delays to Google’s TPU v9. Industry sources point to the HumuFish variation as a key area of concern: reported yield problems with Intel’s EMIB-T substrates have raised the possibility of a switch to TSMC’s CoWoS-L. Supply chain checks, however, indicate that HumuFish remains “100%” committed to EMIB-T.
Yield Gap Raises Production Readiness Concerns
According to Common Wealth Magazine, EMIB-T’s architecture poses two major challenges for substrate suppliers. First, differences in thermal expansion between ABF substrates and embedded silicon bridges make precise alignment difficult during high-temperature processing. Second, NCF (Non-Conductive Film), applied beneath the bridges’ TSVs, can trap air bubbles during bonding, potentially weakening adhesion and further weighing on yields.
Against this backdrop, industry sources say that EMIB-T substrate yields were around 35% in 3Q26, well short of the 50% target set for year-end.
However, efforts are underway. While the reported bottleneck centers on substrate suppliers’ difficulties embedding TSV-equipped silicon bridge dies, industry sources note that Intel has adjusted its substrate electroplating process, while suppliers including Ibiden, Unimicron, and Shinko continue working to improve yields.
With HumuFish not slated for mass production until 1H28, the supply chain still has time to tackle the remaining challenges, according to industry sources.
TPU v9 Packaging Orders Split Between TSMC and Intel
According to industry sources, Google’s TPU v9 lineup is confirmed to include three variants: Broadcom-designed WhaleFish, and MediaTek-designed HumuFish and TriggerFish. WhaleFish is expected to adopt TSMC’s CoWoS-L, with mass production slated for 2H27. HumuFish, meanwhile, is set to enter mass production in 1H28, relying exclusively on Intel’s EMIB-T. TriggerFish is also planned to use EMIB-T, with production targeted for 2H28 or later.
TechNews, citing analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, further explains that TriggerFish is positioned as an upgraded TPU v9 with stronger inference capabilities, designed to address both CPU and memory bottlenecks. According to Kuo, TriggerFish features three key upgrades over HumuFish: 2–3 times the SRAM capacity, an additional simulation die, and a shift to HBM4E from HumuFish’s HBM4.
HumuFish’s Potential Timeline Slip
Amid recent market rumors of HumuFish’s delay, industry sources indicate that the tape-out of Google-designed Compute Die A, built on TSMC’s N2 process, has been pushed back to late October, while other dies remain on schedule.
Against this backdrop, industry sources suggest the delay is expected to push back trial production of the complete package. Commercial Times further notes that the Google TPU v9 project (HumuFish) involving MediaTek could see its tape-out pushed back to January 2027 due to design revisions, potentially delaying shipments until 1Q28.
Taken together, HumuFish’s 1H28 mass production target still gives the supply chain time to work through EMIB-T’s remaining issues, but a tape-out that slips to January 2027 could compress that cushion. How quickly substrate yields climb, and whether design milestones hold, will determine if HumuFish stays on schedule. The outcome will also be a key test of Intel’s ability to win large external customers for advanced packaging.
Read more
- [News] Intel’s Advanced Packaging, Led by EMIB-T, Set to Hit Its Stride in 2029; DRAM Manufacturing Ruled Out
- [Breaking] Intel EMIB Substrate Yields Reportedly Hit 45%, Suppliers Eye 60% by 1Q27
(Photo credit: Google)
Uncertainty is growing over potential delays to Google’s TPU v9. Industry sources point to the HumuFish variation as a key area of concern: reported yield problems with Intel’s EMIB-T substrates have raised the possibility of a switch to TSMC’s CoWoS-L. Supply chain checks, however, indicate that HumuFish remains “100%” committed to EMIB-T.
Yield Gap Raises Production Readiness Concerns
According to Common Wealth Magazine, EMIB-T’s architecture poses two major challenges for substrate suppliers. First, differences in thermal expansion between ABF substrates and embedded silicon bridges make precise alignment difficult during high-temperature processing. Second, NCF (Non-Conductive Film), applied beneath the bridges’ TSVs, can trap air bubbles during bonding, potentially weakening adhesion and further weighing on yields.
Against this backdrop, industry sources say that EMIB-T substrate yields were around 35% in 3Q26, well short of the 50% target set for year-end.
However, efforts are underway. While the reported bottleneck centers on substrate suppliers’ difficulties embedding TSV-equipped silicon bridge dies, industry sources note that Intel has adjusted its substrate electroplating process, while suppliers including Ibiden, Unimicron, and Shinko continue working to improve yields.
With HumuFish not slated for mass production until 1H28, the supply chain still has time to tackle the remaining challenges, according to industry sources.
TPU v9 Packaging Orders Split Between TSMC and Intel
According to industry sources, Google’s TPU v9 lineup is confirmed to include three variants: Broadcom-designed WhaleFish, and MediaTek-designed HumuFish and TriggerFish. WhaleFish is expected to adopt TSMC’s CoWoS-L, with mass production slated for 2H27. HumuFish, meanwhile, is set to enter mass production in 1H28, relying exclusively on Intel’s EMIB-T. TriggerFish is also planned to use EMIB-T, with production targeted for 2H28 or later.
TechNews, citing analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, further explains that TriggerFish is positioned as an upgraded TPU v9 with stronger inference capabilities, designed to address both CPU and memory bottlenecks. According to Kuo, TriggerFish features three key upgrades over HumuFish: 2–3 times the SRAM capacity, an additional simulation die, and a shift to HBM4E from HumuFish’s HBM4.
HumuFish’s Potential Timeline Slip
Amid recent market rumors of HumuFish’s delay, industry sources indicate that the tape-out of Google-designed Compute Die A, built on TSMC’s N2 process, has been pushed back to late October, while other dies remain on schedule.
Against this backdrop, industry sources suggest the delay is expected to push back trial production of the complete package. Commercial Times further notes that the Google TPU v9 project (HumuFish) involving MediaTek could see its tape-out pushed back to January 2027 due to design revisions, potentially delaying shipments until 1Q28.
Taken together, HumuFish’s 1H28 mass production target still gives the supply chain time to work through EMIB-T’s remaining issues, but a tape-out that slips to January 2027 could compress that cushion. How quickly substrate yields climb, and whether design milestones hold, will determine if HumuFish stays on schedule. The outcome will also be a key test of Intel’s ability to win large external customers for advanced packaging.
Read more
- [News] Intel’s Advanced Packaging, Led by EMIB-T, Set to Hit Its Stride in 2029; DRAM Manufacturing Ruled Out
- [Breaking] Intel EMIB Substrate Yields Reportedly Hit 45%, Suppliers Eye 60% by 1Q27
(Photo credit: Google)
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